Which Cuyahoga County cities voted for Nikki Haley over Donald Trump? Today in Ohio
Editor Chris Quinn hosts our daily half-hour news podcast, with editorial board member Lisa Garvin, impact editor Leila Atassi and content director Laura Johnston. Despite Nikki Haley's withdrawal from the presidential race two weeks before the Ohio primary, Nikki Haley won over Donald Trump in three Cuyahoga County towns. Despite her suspension from the campaign two weeks prior to the primary election, Haley still won in several places. This article discusses who voted for Haley in these towns and how the hold over the Republican Party in Ohio is not absolute. Some Republican legislators propose fixing the current voter registration system for accidental voting in two places in the same election, but this could add some tedium for all of us to accomplish. Other topics discussed include the cost of starting a summer garden from seed compared to buying already started plants outdoors. The article also discusses the controversy surrounding a transgender candidate who was removed from the ballot due to not listing their previous name, a rule not enforced on married people.
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CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Despite dropping out of the presidential race nearly two weeks ahead of Ohio’s primary election day, Nikki Haley claimed victory over Donald Trump in three Cuyahoga County towns.
We’re talking about who voted for Haley and why on Today in Ohio.
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We talked this week about the hold Donald Trump has over the Republican Party in Ohio, but it turns out that hold is not absolute. Nikki Haley had dropped out of the race against Trump before the Ohio primary, but she still won in a few places. Where?
Some Republican legislators who think the current voter registration system might let people accidentally vote in two places for the same election have an idea for fixing it, but it will add some tedium for all of us to accomplish. What do they want to do?
We all know Ohio suffered mightily in the opioid epidemic, but what we know officially is about deaths. How has Ohio changed the rules to get a better read on how widely opioids are being used?
Cleveland Mayor Justin Bibb gave a very long State of the City speech Thursday, followed by a bunch of softball questions. What were the highlights of his time on the stage at Playhouse Square?
We had a transgender candidate in Ohio who was booted from the ballot because they did not list their previous name. That’s a rule not enforced on married people. Is there a chance that future transgender candidates will get the same treatment as married people?
The Democratic candidate challenging Republican Congressman Dave Joyce is in some hot water. What’s the accusation?
Although Mike O’Malley won the Democratic primary for Cuyahoga County prosecutor by an enormous margin, he actually lost the vote in a handful of towns. Which ones?
How much does it cost to rent a place to live in Cleveland, and how much has that increased?
This is the weekend where, if you plant your summer garden starting from seed, that you should get those seeds started. But is that cheaper than waiting and buying already started plants closer to the time when you can safely plant outdoors. What does Saving You Money Columnist Sean McDonnell say?
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So last time you’re going to hear the voices of Laura Johnston and Leila Atassi for a little while. We’ve entered spring break season. We’ll have a different cast of characters on next week, but Lisa and I will still be here. It’s Today in Ohio, the news podcast discussion from cleveland.com and The Plain Dealer. I’m Chris Quinn here with Lisa, Leila and Laura for a Friday discussion of the news. We talked last week about the hold Donald Trump has over the Republican Party in Ohio.
But it turns out that hold is not absolute. Nikki Haley had dropped out of the race against Trump before the Ohio primary, but Leila, she still won in a few places. Where was that?
Yeah, well, so Trump picked up nearly three quarters of the vote overall in Cuyahoga County, and that’s well ahead of Haley’s 21 percent. But Haley did win in three Cuyahoga County towns despite having suspended her campaign weeks ago. She won in Shaker Heights, 55.2 percent to 34.7 percent, Orange, 46.8 percent to 42.4, and Bentleyville.
49.5% to 41.9. Of course, in real numbers, we’re talking only a handful of votes between them in these towns because of low voter turnout, but still, she’s not even in the race anymore. So good on her.
Yeah, I mean, how many Republicans actually live in Shaker Heights? So it’s not really a surprise. And if you live in Shaker Heights, you know, you’re probably well educated and realize that Donald Trump’s a monster and you would vote for anybody but Donald Trump. So it’s not really surprising. I guess it’s a little bit surprising that it didn’t happen more. Nobody on the west side of town voted that way. Every town that voted a Republican voted for Trump. But that’s where.
Well, there’s that recognition that she’s not in the race. So, you know, some people don’t, you know, I know people who don’t, they don’t vote for anyone who’s unopposed. You know, there’s just these kinds of principles that they, they just don’t. So you know.
I do have friends that both said they made a point of voting for Nikki Haley. That, you know, they went and voted specifically for that, you know, to have a voice even if you know it’s not really going to count.
They made a point of voting for this tool. They went and voted specifically for that tool. So have a voice, even if you know it’s not really going to come.
Well, let’s look at it this way. If Nikki Hadley is ever looking for a receptive audience in Northeast Ohio, she knows where to come. There’s three towns that seemingly would welcome her. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Some Republican legislators who think the current voter registration system might let people accidentally vote in two places for the same election have an idea for fixing it. But Laura, it’s gonna add some tedium for all of us. What do they want to do?
Well, there’s nothing like battling voter fraud for a good Republican bill. And this one comes from our friend, Gary Click, who’s the same guy who wants to, uh, send scholarships to unchartered private schools. However, this is not the same ludicrous idea as that, right? It actually might cut down on work for board of elections officials by adding a form when you vote saying where you used to live.
and sorry, not when you vote, but when you register to vote, where you used to live. So that way you can contact the board of elections there and say, hey, take this person off the rolls. They no longer live there. And that way you have a previous address. So election officials can do that efficiently rather than have to go through a couple of different steps and catch it. This is not a big problem. Elections officials say people are not voting in two different counties at the same time, but this would streamline the process and it would not be mandatory under CLICS bill.
they go on their way. And that way, obviously, it’s a drag to go to election officials to do that. And they can leave rather than have to go through a couple of different steps that they can’t attend to. This is not a big problem. Election officials say people are not going to be protected for the same time. But this would screen-blind the process. And it would not be mandatory under place of bill. So if you didn’t fill it out, it would be a big problem.
So if you didn’t fill it out, you wouldn’t be in trouble.
Actually, I don’t think it’s a terrible idea, although there ought to be a limit. If you haven’t moved in the last five years or 10 years, you shouldn’t have to do it. But if you’re if you have, yeah, it’s a good way for the elections board to just let wherever you move from know that you’re no longer there. It seems like it’s not a terrible idea. But I think many people, like most of us, have lived in the same place for a long time. Why on earth would we have to keep telling the elections board our last address? It’s been a long.
Right. He’d be purged from the rules anyway.
I think that’s only when you register to vote. So as long as you’re a regular voter, you wouldn’t have to do anything. It’s only if your voting lapses and need to re-register or you go to a new place that you’d have to fill out this part of the form.
Okay, you’re listening to Today in Ohio. We all know Ohio suffered mightily in the opioid epidemic, but we know officially it’s about death. How has Ohio changed the rules, Lisa, to get a better read on how widely opioids are being used?
This is a proposed new rule from the Ohio Department of Health that would require hospital emergency departments to report non-fatal drug overdoses to the state within two days. They’re hoping that the data will help determine where these overdoses are occurring and identify people who overdose repeatedly, and this would allow them to put the resources where they’re needed most. ODH Director Dr. Bruce Vanderhoef says they already gather some of this information.
but this added data can help them create new strategies. And they say that they would be able to notify pharmacists when prescribing medications could be impacted by overdosing trends in their area. University Hospital says they have not reported non-fatal overdoses, but they said that compliance at first will be an extra burden, but they say it’s a really smart idea for targeting places where they need Narcan availability, social services, and...
educating physicians on drugs to help people wean off of opiates. The Cleveland Health Department says that the ODH platforms that they use for must-report health conditions doesn’t currently have a listing for non-fatal overdoses. So I’m sure this will change in the future. But yeah, this is a really good idea and I’m surprised they haven’t thought of it before now.
What I’ll be interested to see, and you won’t know until you get the data for a while, is there a difference? Are there a lot of places where you have overdoses and don’t have the high rate of death you have elsewhere and what would explain that? I would think that the rate of overdose without death would be pretty similar to the rate with death, so I’m not sure how much you learn from it except for
getting some raw numbers because they probably don’t have an idea of just how bad this is in some areas. So, I’m going to go ahead and start the video.
Yeah, and there are some holes in the data. I know that in 2022, they said that there were 4,915 unintended overdose deaths, and that was actually down from 2021 in Ohio.
Okay, you’re listening to Today in Ohio. Cleveland Mayor Justin Bibb gave a very long State of the City speech Thursday followed by taking a bunch of softball questions. Layla, you sat through it. What were the highlights of his time on the stage at Playhouse Square?
I’m gonna go get some water.
Well, he dropped a couple announcements, so we can start there. First, in line with his pledge to reinvest in the marginalized black communities on the southeast side, Bibb announced a new effort to seek proposals to redevelop three city-owned properties in the Lee-Harvard neighborhood. Those are the former JFK and Graysmourne school sites are part of that. And that’s on top of 15 million that the city is already dedicating to the southeast side. And then also to make good on his promise of bringing city government into the 21st century, we can expect
the first version of Bibb’s long promised open data portal to finally launch next week. And this should offer easy access to a whole range of city records. And along with that, he said the city is improving its response to calls for service so that when a complaint or call is made to City Hall, the caller will be able to track action on that call in real time, just like you would track a UPS package, he said. So that got a lot of oohs and ahs from the audience.
Other than that, he really just kind of celebrated the city’s accomplishments and then talked a lot about the struggles of this past year. He talked about public safety and the city’s struggle to close the hiring gap on the police force. They’re making headway with the new cadet class, which will be larger than any we’ve had in recent years. He celebrated the residents’ first housing code overhaul, but he lamented that landlords are still getting away with their lead-infested properties that are poisoning kids despite the city’s lead safe law. So he pledged better enforcement of that.
And he also made a really big statement against the tobacco industry and called for statewide policies that protect the community from the insidiousness of cigarettes, especially flavor products that try to get people hooked on smoking early in life. He said, illnesses caused by cigarettes are the number one killer in Cleveland, not guns, but cigarettes. And he said that this problem really speaks to the declaration that racism is a public health crisis because the cigarette industry is so disproportionately targeting black and brown people.
And he said, the smoking rate in Cleveland is something like 35%, I think he said, which is really far above the national average. And he closed out his speech with a really nice walk off about the lakefront and downtown developments and the catalytic TIF district that’ll support all of that. And he said, this is how we stop managing decline and begin to grow once again. It’s a very uplifting message yesterday.
So we all know less is more. Were people getting restless with how long this went?
Well, yes, because there was part two. First of all, we were noting that in the program it said, I think his speech was only supposed to last about 20 minutes and then they were going to switch over to this moderated discussion with Laura Bloomberg and it went on and on and on. And then they did switch to the moderated discussion and people got up and left, I think, at least maybe a third of the audience, at least in the section we were sitting in up in the balcony, got up and had to leave. I mean, there are a lot of business people in that audience who had to get back to it.
But some stuck it out and you know what struck me about this format though is that they didn’t take any impromptu questions from the audience and this is a City Club forum event, you know, an event that the City Club, you know, arranges and that’s pretty, you know, that’s one of their hallmarks and they were questions, he took questions from specific community members that were kind of packaged in these highly polished video segments. So it was clearly a curated question and answer session.
I always think the best part of State of the City is when the mayor takes those questions from the audience and really has to think on his feet. That’s when you really see him shine. And I was kind of meh about that.
Yeah, I think the mayors get tired though, because there’s always a couple of crank questions and there’s with no filter, you end up having a mayor standing on a stage talking to somebody that basically has mental health issues. There’s got to be a better way, but Frank Jackson in his later years, he abandoned the whole city club format and did his thing in public hall again with curated questions. Although for many years he stood there and took the questions.
I don’t know, Eric Gordon always took the questions and you’re right. You should be willing to face the public, but mayors have kind of abandoned that city club format. What I like about city club format is the speech lasts 30 minutes, the questions and answers last 30 minutes. And there’s something to be said for that. Did he bring up the story that everybody can’t stop talking about the stadium?
Oh no, not at all. No.
No, no. Brownsworth even mentioned except for in the beginning video, it called it a orange and brown town and then it mentioned the calves and the guardians, but nowhere was that part of it. And it’s funny because I think everybody was kind of like, what’s with the timeline of this speech? Because then Laura Bloomberg said, well, I have five more questions, but she didn’t get to answer them because they cut it off at about 120.
Well, if they would have taken impromptu questions, they would have gotten a question about the stadium, which would have been interesting for them to answer. We continue to get bombarded by notes from people who are not thinking of the stadium the way they think about the economics in their own house. I’m amazed at it. They just keep thinking, wouldn’t it be great to have a two, two and a half billion dollar stadium? Wouldn’t it be great to have a dome? And it’s like, do you buy your house that way? Do you buy your car that way, regardless of money? Or do you look at what you have?
and work within it. Cleveland doesn’t have $2.5 billion, and the Hassams aren’t gonna spend that kind of money. So it’s fascinating how this is going. I would have loved to have heard Bibb on the record addressing it.
I mean, now that you mentioned, I’m certain that questions like that about the Brown Stadium is exactly why they went with the curated questions approach. And also probably to keep any questions about Israel and Palestine at bay, because there were two protesters who stood up at different times and chanted things at the mayor and were escorted from the audience. So probably they didn’t want any of that to enter the Q&A session.
who stood up at different times and chanced things that the mayor addressed.
Yeah, but wouldn’t you have loved to have heard him say, look, I think the Haslams are trying to put pressure on me to cave, but I represent the city of Cleveland. I put a deal on the table. That’s what’s there. If they don’t like it, then they can go spend their own money and build elsewhere. You think about the statement, the power of that statement, instead of all this nattering that’s going on now with people thinking you’re going to build an entertainment district in Brooke Park next to the airport.
But the mayor’s trying to take the high road in this. He’s trying to keep the negotiating where it belongs and not in the public. The Haslams are the ones breaking those. I know, but he’s not engaging in it. He hasn’t so far been a part of that. He’s trying to take the high road.
It’s in the public though. Yeah, but it’s there.
All right, you’re listening to Today in Ohio. We had a transgender candidate in Ohio who was booted from the ballot because they did not list their previous name. That’s a rule that’s not enforced on married people. Is there a chance, Laura, that transgender candidates of the future will get the same treatment that Ohio gives married people when it comes to listing past names?
Possibly, but this legislation is only sponsored by Democrats, so it’s not likely to pass any time soon. It’s House Bill 467. It comes in response to the Stark County Board of Elections decision in January to prevent Democrat Vanessa Joy from running for the House. And they stated this law that nobody had ever heard of, basically. It wasn’t in any literature. There’s no form on the, no box on the form to fill it out.
And it says that anyone who files to run for public office has to list both their current name and any other names they went by in the past five years. Even though other people had the same issue in different boards of elections in different counties, and they were not held up the same way. So this got appealed, it went to court, nothing really happened. So this new bill makes would-be candidates exempt from having to list these recent prior names if they obtain a court order to change their legal names.
So this new bill makes would be candidate exempt from having a right to use this entire name if they have a court order to change their legal name. Already the law exempts candidates to change their name because they are not married or any state or local official who previously complied with the law. I’m not exempt.
Already the law exams candidates who changed their name because they got married or any state or local officials who previously complied with the law. I’m not exactly sure what that means or why we’re giving state and local elected officials preference here, but I don’t think it’s going to pass anytime soon. Even though Mike DeWine did say in an editorial board in January that changes should be made to keep, you know, not to kick these people off the ballot.
We do need some sort of uniform rule though. I mean, right now it’s a discriminatory rule. You could argue that the voters have a right to know the history of people who appear on the ballot. And so everybody should list their past names. But the minute you say married people don’t have to do it, but transgender people do, you’ve created a discrimination and that’s not okay. Something needs to be done to make this uniform.
Right. And if there’s a law that we’re going to enforce, it would be nice to tell people about it. So at least at this point, there’s been a whole lot of publicity about it. So I don’t think people are going to fall prey to this quite so easily. But the Stark County Board of Elections did disqualify a GOP judicial candidate this month for violating that disclosure agreement. She legally took the surname of her longtime partner. So they’re not married. So it doesn’t get that loophole.
Okay. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. The Democratic candidate challenging Republican Congressman Dave Joyce is in hot water. Lisa, what’s the accusation?
Yeah, this is the Democratic challenger for Dave Joyce in the 14th Congressional District. His name is Brian Bob Kanderes. He calls himself a retired soccer coach, a mental health professional, and a residential construction project manager. He is charged in Painesville Municipal Court with filing a false voter registration. That’s a fifth degree felony that carries a six to 12 month prison term. His arraignment will be on April 23rd.
Kandair has listed his mentor address on the candidate filing paperwork and he is registered to vote at that address as well. But court filings indicate that he actually lives in Strongsville. The Lake County Board of Elections has no comment on this ongoing situation. Apparently, I did not know this, but Ohio law says that Congress members don’t have to live in their districts and Strongville is not in the 14th district, I don’t think.
which is Lake Geauga, Ashtabula, Trumbull, and most of Portage County. In 2022, Kanderes had a write-in campaign for the seventh congressional district, the seat that was won by Rocky River Republican Max Miller. Kanderes got 35 write-in votes.
But for this current campaign, he hasn’t raised or spent any money and he hasn’t had any campaign disclosure filings at all. He says he’s running as a Democrat to serve the broken and beaten down. But it’s interesting, I’d love to know more about this. I’m not sure what they’re hanging this on exactly.
Well, it is true. You don’t have to live in your district, which is bizarre, but you do have to be honest about where you live. In the newsroom, we get hit all the time with allegations that somebody doesn’t live where they claim. And generally, what it involves is somebody has a house in the district where they represent, but they spend all their time somewhere else. They’ve got a new partner or something, and they’re spending time at their house.
This is different. If his real residence is in Strongsville, as prosecutors allege, and he listed an address there and they can prove it, then he’s going to be in some trouble.
Yeah, they haven’t given us many details. They just say court filings indicate that he lives in Strungsville. What that means, I don’t know.
All right, you’re listening to Today in Ohio. Although Michael Malley won the Democratic primary for Cuyahoga County prosecutor by an enormous margin, he actually lost the vote in a handful of towns. Lalo, which ones?
Yeah, O’Malley carried the election with 59% of the county vote, winning 55 of the 59 cities, villages and townships. In North Royalton, Walton Hills, Seven Hills, Brook Park and Hunting Valley, three out of four voters in this race chose O’Malley. But Matthew Ahn won in four places, Cleveland Heights, Lakewood, Oakwood and Shaker Heights with the most support from Cleveland Heights with 57% of the vote. So that’s how that shook out.
We’re talking about in some places just dozens of people who came out to vote at all. So, you know, small numbers, but still.
You know, we talked throughout that campaign that people were misinformed, that they didn’t really understand how unqualified Ahn was. I mean, we talked about it repeatedly. So I’m surprised because usually I live in Cleveland Heights, and usually the voters there are pretty well informed. But instead, I think they thought, oh, reform, reform. Let’s go against the establishment without really thinking through what they were what they would have done. I mean, we pointed out in our editorial.
that endorsed O’Malley, that Ahn hasn’t ever supervised anybody except six interns for a law project and this is a huge management job of a staff of hundreds of people in a bunch of different divisions. I was surprised to see that the Cleveland Heights voters went the way they did. Yeah.
You were surprised? I’m not surprised at all that Cleveland Heights, they were at the top of my list of people who would have voted for on. A lot of my progressive friends, some of them who are very involved in local politics, were going to vote for on and I didn’t catch a couple of them before they voted early, but I’m like, oh no, he is not qualified at all.
Yeah, but that’s what I’m saying is usually Cleveland Heights, while it’s very progressive, they’re informed. I just was surprised that they threw that to the wind and just went, oh, progressive, let’s go progressive. And and the results, the ramifications be damned. So surprising.
But who else besides Cleveland.com and the plane dealer was sounding the alarm on on? Nobody else that I know of.
Well, that’s true. That’s true. If you’re not paying attention, then you would just go with well, he’s progressive. He talks. He talks a good game. You’re listening.
And we also talked about how when you looked at the Democratic ballot, there were four races in a row with O’Malley’s in it. And I think just the visual of that alone gives you the sense that, all right, maybe we need to change. You know what I mean? It kind of gives you a feeling that there is something to the name recognition or the sense that we just...
We’ve all been kind of carried along the stream here. I could see why people would try to buck the system with a vote like that.
Good point. You are listening to Today in Ohio. How much does it cost to rent a place to live in Cleveland these days? And Laura, how much has that increased?
It’s a lot of money if you’re renting an apartment. You’re paying the equivalent of a mortgage for some of these, especially if you want a two-bedroom. So, rent.com compiles this data and they found the median price for studios was $1,019 in February. That’s a 7% increase compared to this time last year. For one-bedrooms, you’re going to pay $15.25. That’s a 6% interest. In two-bedrooms, lowest increase is 2%. But...
$2,112 and some neighborhoods are more expensive than others. Ohio City for studios is about $1,533. That’s a 69% increase. Maybe there’s just a lot more luxury studios coming on the market in that area. I mean, that’s prime market for young people to live and they can live in a studio. The lowest studio rent was in St. Clair Superior at $500.
This gets at the idea of our homelessness problem and the lack of affordable housing. I mean, it’s wonderful for property investment that the prices are going up, but for a family of four that’s living on poverty kind of wages, where do they go at this point?
Definitely not to Ohio City, really. I agree. It sounds, you know, the studio rent in St. Clair at Superior is probably pretty reasonable at $500, but you don’t know the condition of those apartments. And just like we were talking about with State of the City, there are, you know, vacant landlords that are not protecting their investment and are not keeping up these properties. And you have lead and you have, you know, dilapidated houses. And it’s a tough market. And it’s been like this for years, right?
to Ohio City, really. I agree, the studio right there, the exterior.
The prices just keep climbing in the housing market and in the apartments as well. If you want to live in the suburbs in an apartment, you know, North Olmsted, you’re going to pay $1,700 on average. Rocky River is 16, Beechwood 13. So they’re not cheap.
Wow, that’s a lot of money. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. This is the weekend where if you plant your summer garden starting from seed, that you should really get those seeds started. But is that cheaper than waiting and buying already started plants closer to the time when you can safely plant outdoors? Lisa, you’re a big time gardener. What does saving you money columnist Sean McDonald say?
Well, in a nutshell, he’s saying that financially, starting your own seeds is cheaper more or less, but it depends on your success rate. So Sean really got into it like he always does. And so he said that he bought a bunch of stuff, like a grow light seeds, a 72 cell grow tray, foam cups, potting soil and the like, and he factored in the electricity to grow these. And he says that’s about $43. A flat of veggie plants at the nursery is about $20.
So he found that if you have a 72 cell tray and you grow 72 seedlings and you have perfect performance and that all of them grow at $1.50 a plant, that’s $108 value with a $43 investment. So you’re saving about $65. If you have a two thirds survival rate of your seedlings, it’s a $72 value. So you’re still saving about $30.
But he said, probably if you’re starting from scratch, growing seeds yourself, you would lose money in the first year because you have this one time cost, you know, like the seed trays and so forth. He says, honestly, trying to save money with seedlings, he says, it’s really just an enjoyable hobby. Why bring money into it all? But he said, store bought seedlings are easier than homegrown. The plant quality is also higher for fruits and veggies from the nursery.
And he says, the best advice is get your seedlings from friends and family.
Actually, the reason I think that this from seed is an option that you might choose is because you can get a much wider array of stuff. If you’re trying to grow very specific kind of peppers or very specific kinds of tomatoes, you won’t necessarily find that in a local greenhouse, whereas you can get the seeds to anything. But he’s right, you’ve got to be able to start them and have them thrive, which is...
more challenging than just buying a plant and sticking it in the ground.
And I’ve never been a seed. I don’t start seeds. I mean, I’ve thrown seeds in the ground outside, but I’ve never started seeds inside or in a greenhouse before. It’s just, I’ve not had a whole lot of success.
have but I usually did them in the egg cartons and didn’t buy anything to you know no grow light no nothing and they’re they were never very successful probably because I was too in a hurry to put them outside but I already did plant peas and lettuce because those can withstand the snow so we’ll see if when I get little shoots from those
Well, I’m trying to grow another round of Carolina Reaper hot peppers, one of the hottest peppers ever created. You can only do that from seed. There’s nobody that’s going to sell a plant around here. I don’t believe so. I’ve got them in and we’ll see if I have any success. Last time I did it, I had one plant survive. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. That’s it for the week of news. Like we said, Leila and Laura are going to take a break. So we hope that they have a good time off. Come back. We’ll have other people filling in. Have a great day.
weekend and we’ll be back Monday. Thank you Lisa, thank you Leyva, thank you Laura.